Our guest today is a person that is truly built a life around freedom through real estate. Jennifer Beadles is a value-add real estate investor, coach, and investment-focused real estate broker with a portfolio of over 250 units across seven states. Jennifer had a goal of buying a house by the age 21. Determined, she worked multiple jobs while finishing up college and lived out her dream of purchasing the least expensive home she could find. From there, she saw how many opportunities presented themselves with real estate. For example, she could tear down the home, build multi-family (since zoning applied), or have the option of fixing and flipping the home. The potential in real estate seemed endless, and from that point on, Jennifer was hooked. Fast forward, Jennifer has 15 years of real estate expertise and has worked with a variety of investment strategies, including BRRR, value-add multifamily, build-to-rent, assisted living, private financing, and out-of-state investing. Jennifer is passionate about helping families build wealth and passive income streams through real estate investing and living a life by design. She has built her network of real estate investors who are looking for out-of-state buy-and-hold rentals in markets all across the U.S. What does financial Independence mean to Jennifer? To Jennifer, financial independence means not having to trade time for money and having the passive income from your investments to fund your desired lifestyle. It means we have more choices. We get to choose whether or not we want to work. 6 years ago both her husband and she worked 12-15 hour days, often 7 days a week. They did this in order to build a rental portfolio which would eventually replace the income from their work. Now, every day they get to decide what they want to do, not dread what they have to do. They now spend their time focusing on their individual and family goals and have autonomy. Jennifer and her family enjoy traveling, they’ve visited more than 30 countries across the globe. Tune in to hear Jennifer's story and learn how you might be able to follow in her footsteps and stop trading time for money! Connect with Jennifer: https://addictedtoroi.com/ https://agentsinvest.com/ And after that head on over to... https://easysell411.com https://billyalvaro.com https://billyssecrets.com Who knows maybe you will be our next partner? To get some neat (and FREE) Tools | Tips | Tricks to help you in REI!
Our guest today is a person that is truly built a life around freedom through real estate.
Jennifer Beadles is a value-add real estate investor, coach, and investment-focused real estate broker with a portfolio of over 250 units across seven states. Jennifer had a goal of buying a house by the age 21. Determined, she worked multiple jobs while finishing up college and lived out her dream of purchasing the least expensive home she could find.
From there, she saw how many opportunities presented themselves with real estate. For example, she could tear down the home, build multi-family (since zoning applied), or have the option of fixing and flipping the home. The potential in real estate seemed endless, and from that point on, Jennifer was hooked.
Fast forward, Jennifer has 15 years of real estate expertise and has worked with a variety of investment strategies, including BRRR, value-add multifamily, build-to-rent, assisted living, private financing, and out-of-state investing. Jennifer is passionate about helping families build wealth and passive income streams through real estate investing and living a life by design. She has built her network of real estate investors who are looking for out-of-state buy-and-hold rentals in markets all across the U.S.
What does financial Independence mean to Jennifer?
To Jennifer, financial independence means not having to trade time for money and having the passive income from your investments to fund your desired lifestyle. It means we have more choices. We get to choose whether or not we want to work.
6 years ago both her husband and she worked 12-15 hour days, often 7 days a week. They did this in order to build a rental portfolio which would eventually replace the income from their work. Now, every day they get to decide what they want to do, not dread what they have to do.
They now spend their time focusing on their individual and family goals and have autonomy. Jennifer and her family enjoy traveling, they’ve visited more than 30 countries across the globe.
Tune in to hear Jennifer's story and learn how you might be able to follow in her footsteps and stop trading time for money!
Connect with Jennifer:
And after that head on over to...
Who knows maybe you will be our next partner?
To get some neat (and FREE) Tools | Tips | Tricks to help you in REI!
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
deals, property managers, agents, investors, properties, husband, private lender, add, units, business, people, build, investing, coaching, flipping, pretty, typically, strategy, buying, develop
SPEAKERS
Billy, Jennifer
Billy 00:20
Welcome to Unstoppable Real Estate Investing Wealth. My name is Billy Alvaro, aka the unstoppable BA, former billion dollar mortgage banker, gone bankrupt, turn professional real estate investor, where each week you'll learn the tools, strategies, systems and secrets myself and other highly successful real estate investing entrepreneurs used to start, grow and scale their businesses creating massive profits and how you can too, and we'll teach you how to put those profits to work. So you no longer have to get ready to finally experience financial freedom and generational wealth. Now let's get started. Well, welcome back, everybody. This is Billy Aloevera, the unstoppable BA with another episode of unstoppable Rei wealth. If you guys would listen to this podcast or watch me on YouTube. You know, we're all about teaching people how to start, grow and eventually scale their real estate investment business. And we do that by giving you guys some of the tools and tips and tricks and strategies and secrets. And today, I have a young lady on the show with me, Mrs. Jennifer Beadles who has story when I read her bio, you are like you went from the rat race working 12 to 15 hour days with your husband seven days a week to now you're financially free. And you've you've traveled I think to 30 plus countries in the last couple of years.
Jennifer01:43
Yeah, lost count. But I know my seven year old daughter has been to 28 countries.
Billy 01:48
Yes. God bless you, man. And you're out of Arizona right now.
Jennifer01:52
Yes, yes.
Billy 01:53
So Jen, let's get a new story. Take us back to when you guys were really like in the rat race. And you guys were running around doing everything? Were you during the rat race days? Was it this business you were in? Or was it something else?
Jennifer02:06
Now as my husband was in the union, so he was a union operator making six figure income, which is really great, you know, the best benefits pension plan, I mean, fantastic opportunity for him. And I worked for a real estate developer. And so when basically, we weren't doing our nine to five, we were trying to figure out the right strategy to basically break free from our nine to five. And you know, to be honest, really, the way that we went about it is, you know, we were buying properties at that time, we were living north of Seattle, so about an hour north of Seattle, this was 2007. So right before the market crash. So in some ways, the worst time to get started, in other ways, the best time to get started, because we'd learned some really great lessons along the way. But so we basically buying fixer upper properties, either flipping them, or if it made sense, as long term buy and hold, we would put a tenant in there, refinance it, you know, whatever money we could get back, and then roll to the next one. So we basically had, you know, multiple jobs at that point, right, we were trying to save all the money that we were making from our nine to five, to basically put it into the real estate investments. And it wasn't until we really understood, like value add multifamily, that we can build some leverage around this. Because it was a lot of work, working, you know, nine to five, and then doing the rentals, basically, after after work, to the point where, you know, I think like three years, then my husband looked at me and he said, I thought you told me we'd get some freedom out of this. And I'm not I'm not like seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. So, you know, you kind of helped me out there. And so yeah, I think it was like your maybe three or four. We had a moment and we pretty much like added up all of our like, net, basically our net income after all the expenses. And so we were bringing in about like $85,000 a year. And so we said, okay, you know, time for my husband to quit his job, so that he could basically kind of focus on the asset management side. You said that was three years in? Yeah, it's like your three or four. Once we got like really serious about investing. Yeah, that's
Billy 04:15
awesome, man. Congratulations. That's great. Got yourself. Great job and right into this full time.
Jennifer04:21
Yes. Yep. And so now both of us have been doing it full time for gosh, about like the last seven, eight years.
Billy 04:29
And is your primary Are you still fixing, flipping wholesaling, wrapping? Yeah, but none of that?
Jennifer04:35
No now. So, you know, once we really focused on what was the important the outcome for us, which is really just that having that freedom. We basically quit flipping, we quit developing properties because we also used to do spec home building. So we did some higher end stuff. And we did some kind of entry level homes, also north of Seattle. And, you know, there was even a point where I was buying properties every Friday at the courthouse. up. So I would have my hard money lender meet me there, he'd bring $5 million in in cashier's checks, and we'd be buying properties. But yeah, the downside is, I think, again, once we got really clear on what the outcome was, which is, we wanted to be able to spend our time doing what we wanted with who we wanted, anywhere in the world. And we wanted that passive income coming in. And the downside for us to, to flipping and, you know, doing all the development is, is a lot of active participation. Right. So if we didn't show up, you know, certainly things could be going wrong on the job. Or, you know, money just wouldn't wouldn't come in, right. And so, so yeah, we got really serious about, okay, you know, flipping and development is great for like one time income. But that's not how, you know, you get to ultimate freedom. So yeah, so we stopped all of that we use this knowledge and the skill set of developing these properties. And we shifted primarily to out of state investing in 2016. The cap rates just weren't where we needed them to be in Seattle. And so we said, well, what would this look like? If basically what we've built in Seattle, we can just pick this up and leverage other teams and other markets to do all the work for us. So yeah, we made that shift in 2016. And now pretty much everything we own is out of state.
Billy 06:23
I love it. So let's go into your model. How do you go about sourcing properties? You have boots on the ground? Is it coming from realtors? What does that look like?
Jennifer06:31
Yeah, so we have a network of, I don't know, maybe a couple 100 realtors, that we work with commercial brokers, residential brokers. And basically, they just they send us deals, I built out a basically like a deal platform. So they submit deals on our website. And basically, it has like a built in calculator for them. So we just wanted to make it really, really easy. And we've we've kind of had to develop this over the years. So like at first, you know, I would just tell the brokers, hey, send me your deals. And then I found myself, like, basically sitting behind a computer analyzing deals all day long and saying, no, no, this is this is junk deal. Like, don't send me this, you know, they'll send me that. So yeah, so we develop this deal platform. Basically, they just submit deals all day long. And then anything that makes sense, basically just kind of take it into like the next level of underwriting from there. And yeah, if that makes sense, we get ello eyes out probably, I don't know of one to three, loi is a week, depending on like, like, lately, it's great. Like, I love this market that we're in right now. I'm seeing better deals, I would say in like the last 90 days, and I have in probably the last three years. So we're super active right now, as far as like getting ello eyes out. But yeah, pretty much just brokers. Everything that we do, you know, we're really looking for leverage. I don't want to build my own, you know, cold calling, I don't want to do direct mail to owners, mostly because we're in so many different states. And it'd be really, really difficult for me, um, and I just don't have the desire to write like, I can plug into an agent that has access to all those deals. I have like zero marketing costs, when I do that, and it takes like, no time and effort. And then basically, they just, yeah, they become the deal source for me.
Billy 08:15
Do you? Do you have any type of training that you're putting these Realtors through the kind of educate them on what to look for? Because I know that you said earlier in the beginning, they sent over a lot of garbage? And that's generally what happens, because the would they consider a deal is that you're already investing in? So what does that process look like at the education side?
Jennifer08:31
Yeah, so I do have a couple of like, how to videos of like, what we're looking for, and then like, also like how to submit the deal to us. And then I found that, you know, it's kind of interesting, Billy. So I, I work with a couple of different agents as far as like, knowledge and experience, right. So I mentioned like some commercial agents, which don't really need knowledge and training, right? This is like, with what they know, you know, to do. But it's there's kind of this sweet spot with residential agents who are really well connected in their market. But maybe this investor side or these commercial properties are new to them. And so yeah, so I developed a whole course for them, basically. Yeah, I did so and it's really cool. Like we've we have a team in Minnesota, who had been Reza, it was like three guys, they had been residential agents. Went through the course. And then gosh, now they're sourcing some really nice, like value add multifamily deals, like smaller deals, right. So like maybe 1640 unit type properties and everything in between. So it's really cool. They've been able to obviously, like build a big business around that. Because the agents get leverage to us, you know, right. As an investor, typically, we're not gonna go into a market and buy just one property. We're gonna buy multiple properties. We're gonna build a portfolio in these different markets. So yeah, I think for agents it's a different conversation, right. So a traditional homeowner is looking for, like amenities you know, like condition of the House, obviously like neighborhoods, schools, things like that, as an investor, we're talking about, you know, well, what's the revenue? What's the potential? Where's the value add strategy? And things like that. So it's a little bit of a different pivot for these agents. But once they get it, it's it's fantastic.
Billy 10:16
That was very smart. By the way. very strategic. You did that with intent? I'm sure a very smart move to develop this. What is the course? Like? Is it just a few hours of you just going over thing, maybe four or five videos? 1520 minutes each showing them the basics? Yeah, no,
Jennifer10:30
no, it's a couple hours? Yeah. I don't know, maybe, like 1015 hours?
Billy 10:36
A lot into this good for you. Yeah, yeah. Well,
Jennifer10:39
you know, I mean, the other part of it, too, is like, so I don't know, I feel like if you add more value to people value will come back to you. Right. And so, you know, and sometimes, like I tell these agents, hey, if you find a really good deal, I might partner with you. Right? I mean, if I don't have, you know, especially for doing a heavy value, add, and I need somebody to kind of be boots on the ground. You know, that's an opportunity. So I really want these agents, number one to put me at the top of their investor list, right. So as you as you know, like agents have a running list of their favorite investors that they work with. And so I want to be their favorite investor, I want them to send me the best deals. And the way that I do that is by adding value, right?
Billy 11:21
I love it. Take us through your, what you look for in it. Well, first off what asset class you do what you do with small apartment
Jennifer11:27
buildings that's using that as my favorite? Yes. What's your
Billy 11:31
big thing? Okay, so walk us through what your underwriting criteria is. For deals.
Jennifer11:36
Yeah, so my by box, it's kind of evolved over the years. But pretty much right now, I would say it's like 10 Plus units, we want to be 1965 or newer. So in some markets, you know, that is going to be a well, it's pretty much like C class. Although we do have some B classes of a class as well, we're wanting double digit returns pretty much looking for like minimum of you know, 15 IRR. And then, you know, just value add strategy. Right? So I'm not so concerned with the current cap rate, I'm really, you know, more looking for, is this in a good neighborhood? Are we gonna attract good tenants? You know, what's our value add strategy, sometimes, you know, we tend to go in, like, we bought a 14 unit building just a couple weeks ago. And it's fully stabilized, but just the rents are low. Right? So as the leases come up, we just are increasing the rents. And you know, the numbers still really work that way. So pretty much yeah, and then, you know, basically 1.2 Million and above anything less than that, as you know, it's just commercial financing is not as attractive, you're typically dealing with local banks. And you know, so that's fine. But I would say yeah, so typically, we're going after, again, more of a value add, coming in driving up noi, a lot of times doing renovations, we're doing a lot of renovations right now, which is a little bit painful. But so let's
Billy 13:01
talk about that. Because I know you're not seeing the backyard like a lot of the commercial investors, they're investing nationally, what does it look like for you? Because you're not going into these 150 200 units where you can send out your own crew, you're going into 1015 2025 units? How are you managing that from afar? Like, what does that whole process look like you relying on the agent on the ground orchestrate all of this, or you and your husband trying to figure out how to put together the team?
Jennifer13:29
Yeah, I know. So typically, we're relying on the property manager. So we pretty much 100% of the time hire the property manager to be our project manager. And so we strategically seek out these property managers who have like in house maintenance, or just really strong connections with local contractors, and then we basically pay them a management fee to handle all of these renovations for us. So we spend about I would say, like three to four months out of the country, every every year, so and I should say, at a time, right, not just like little two week trips. And so yeah, I mean, everything is just systems and processes for us. So typically, we're even, you know, making offers and buying properties while we're gone. And so we pretty much rely on these property managers. And that's, that's what they do. Yeah. So they come out during due diligence, of course, we get, you know, bids and estimates and have conversations around, you know, at what level do we need to renovate these units in order to maximize the rent and then they'll put a proposal together basically give us you know, it's an insight like some areas you know, like to cm granite, right. Other areas, we're going to do like butcher block countertop or plastic laminate, you know, things like that. So it's really kind of area dependent. But yeah, we basically just, you know, get scope of work, pay the property manager, you know, a management fee or something, you know, a little bit over and be over and above, for doing the project management. And then basically they just execute and we get pictures every week just like updates. Um, and so yeah, it works really well for us.
Billy 15:02
So Jenny, you, you, your husband and you going out? When you get the LOI accepted the due diligence package? I'm sure you guys are doing the underwriting in house. Are you seeing that as well? You're doing the underwriting? Yes. Okay. And then once you do you underwrite, are you and your husband flying out to do site inspections to meet the inspectors out there? And none of that?
Jennifer15:21
None of that? No,
Billy 15:23
no. Everything's that's, that's insane. On the the single family side, I hear it a lot. I don't normally hear that. On the on the commercial side, generally, the investors fly out and they want to do an on boots on the ground, check it out. So you're relying on the property manager to do the home inspection to do the complete analysis? Or is that a third party that you're that you're bringing in? Yeah, no.
Jennifer15:44
So we'll have third party inspectors, for sure. But I mean, I have a full checklist from for the agent and for the property managers of what I want, like down to I want 360, you know, photos and video of the entire property. Right. I want photos of every single room. And you know, things like that. Right. All the mechanicals. So yeah, so it's basically, you know, again, systems and processes checklists for them to get us all of this information. And then we just cross referenced with each other. Right? So agents are always going to tell you the good about the property. They're never gonna say, oh, yeah, by the way, you know, these con is like, sidewalk, concrete busted up, and we've got some handrails, it's falling down, you know, things like that. The property managers, though, they are looking for those things, right, they're looking through a different lens. And so they will say, you know, like, hey, parking is kind of an issue here, or we've got some, you know, deferred maintenance and the exterior or the soffits, or rot, you know, things like that. So, yeah, I mean, we pretty much take, you know, what the agents say, is the good, and then, you know, with the property managers say, is the concern, we build a scope of work around that we get some estimates and rockin and rollin.
Billy 16:55
Let's, let's talk about how you go about raising the capital you do. You do syndications? What does that look like?
Jennifer17:03
Yes, that's typically JV deals, or private lenders. Syndication would probably be like the the last option. So typically, you know, so the way I look at it, there's like three ways that you can raise capital, right? One is, you just bring in a private lender to fund the deal. Like especially right now, it's great, because interest rates are so high, that basically you can offer a better deal to a private lender and, you know, get better terms than you would on like a bridge right now. So we've done a lot of that it's pretty easy to do on these smaller deals, right, like 1012 20 unit, I mean, it's pretty easy to do pretty easy to either find one private lender or a small group of private lenders, and people who just want you know, passive return short term interest, and then stabilize the property right? Refinance. Pretty easy to do that. Option number two JV, right. So great opportunity for investors that want the benefit of the the taxes, right, the cost segregation, the depreciation, super easy to bring in, you know, JV partners, obviously, they have to have some kind of like active role in the investment. And then yeah, the third option would be syndication, but primarily, we're doing private lenders or JV.
Billy 18:16
Love it. What is the other portfolio look like these days? How many units on the management?
Jennifer18:20
Yeah, so we're at 281 and eight different states.
Billy 18:24
And what are the states? Right?
Jennifer18:26
We're in Washington, Idaho, Texas, Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, and Michigan, and Arizona. Yeah.
Billy 18:37
Hey, there. Yeah. So what is your what are your plans? Like? What are your what's your vision you, your husband to grow this thing out?
Jennifer18:45
Yeah. So for us, you know, we want a million dollars a month in cash flow. So we're basically focused more on revenue, like unit count to me, means nothing, I know, investors who have 1000s of units and, you know, they're still like, stuck at their nine to five. So that's not, you know, an indicator of success for me. So for us, yeah, it's, it's, you know, basically, I would say, adding value to our agent partners, adding value to other investors, having them participate in the deals, get into deals, kind of learn how this all works, so that then they can go out and develop their own portfolio. And then yeah, just, you know, continue to live our best life. So it's my, it's my short term goal, I would say, in the next three years, I'm going to do part time in the US part time abroad, you know, have basically be dual citizenship living in another country. We're all doing this, right. So that's, that's kind of like how we test our systems processes is we leave for again, like a minimum of, I would say, eight weeks at a time and, you know, just see, like, can we like truly do this remotely? And, and yeah, since 2017, we've been doing that.
Billy 19:48
What is what's your business structure? Like? Is your husband with a team of virtual assistants? Do you have any assistance at all? Any type of individuals besides you and your husband working or is it just you guys?
Jennifer19:59
So It's pretty much just us in the property managers on the rental portfolio side, we do have a, you know, coaching business as well. So we help investors get into this, we have a team of eight, who basically runs the coaching. But basically, they're the brilliant ones that basically like run all the backend, and I just show up and, you know, do kind of coaching and training around like how investors can build their own portfolio. And so yes, I have a whole team that does that. But pretty much again, you know, it's just my husband and I are our property managers and our agents, of course, you guys and then bookkeeper, I should say, I should say we have a bookkeeper and of course, incredible CPA, a team of attorneys that makes sure that, you know, we put all the work in to build these assets, we want to keep them you know,
Billy 20:39
so operationally, you guys are running thin, like that is fantastic. You got fat margins, no overhead, yes, no cost of bringing the business at all any, because it's all coming to you from referrals. So like, kudos to you. You're awesome. And you build a great organization. Thank you. If, if the training that you have for the realtors, is that available to other realtors, that they want to learn from you and start doing business
Jennifer21:04
with you? Absolutely. We're always we're always looking for more agents, we're always looking to expand into other markets.
Billy 21:10
For that, so if the states that you want to go into how do they find you to get your course to start doing business with
Jennifer21:16
you? Yeah, so it's agents, invest.com,
Billy 21:19
Scible? Agents of s.com. Right. Tell me about your you have a podcast yourself?
Jennifer21:25
I have no I do not.
Billy 21:27
I thought I read Do you have a podcast on here? No, no, no podcasts? Because that means you'd have to actually do some work. And you'd have
Jennifer21:35
to put minimal effort for maximum result. Absolutely. But you do have your coaching
Billy 21:41
program. So speak speak about that, because I'd like to give a plug on that as well.
Jennifer21:45
Yeah, absolutely. So it's really interesting, I had no desire to like to coach around this or to really even like create a business around coaching. But I just had so many people asking me about it. And so, you know, it's kind of interesting. In the first couple of years, my husband and I, like we didn't really, like talk much about what we were doing. But our friends and family were like, well, you're always at these properties. Do you own them? Like, like, what are you doing, you know, it all these properties. And, and so we kind of started to share, and especially like when my husband quit his job. And obviously, when I quit my job, we found ourselves like asking our friends or inviting our friends, like, Hey, you want to go to Mexico next weekend? Hey, you know, we're gonna go to Europe for the summer, you want to come with us? And people are like, nobody does that. Like, you're crazy. What do you what are you talking about? Like, we have jobs? Are we, you know, are their friends that own businesses, right? They're like, I can't leave my business, just like on a whim, you know, go on these trips. And so, um, you know, to be honest, I haven't we got a little bit lonely. And it was kind of like
Billy 22:48
your real friends are working there.
Jennifer22:52
Right, it was like, it was like, you know, something is missing. So we have all this freedom, and it was fantastic. And, but, you know, we're like, we want to take others along with us. Right? And so, so yeah, so people just kind of, like, raise their hands and said, How do you do this? Can you kind of teach me the frameworks. And like, teach me like, like, how you identify markets and how you build the team, and how you, you know, kind of build systems and processes around this. So I just kind of started doing webinars, and then we'd get a lot of people and then and then I just have random people say, like, one of two things. One is I would get people say, can I just give you money, and you do what you do, and I just want a return on my money. And then the other thing that happened is people said, Can Can you mentor me? Can you coach me? Like, what would you charge to do that? And so again, you know, visually, like, I'm like, okay, maximum. rehearsals, I don't, I don't want to do like one on one coaching. I don't want to, you know, we really want to make sure that the majority of our time is just spent together as a family. And so I said, Okay, well, let's see, like, what would it look like if I, you know, basically could could reach many, right? And so yeah, so we, we launched that in 2020. So May of 2020, when a lot of people were kind of stuck at home, the pandemic was happening, and I had a feeling that real estate would really take off. And so I said, Okay, whatever, we'll just like offer this thing. And so yeah, so now we have a cost like 400 Activate members in our community. And it's, it's incredible. I mean, I have some fun from Seattle, zero rentals started in June with us, and I think he's at like 30 units already. Install out of state right, and he works full time. So So anyways, now I just I love it. It's, it's awesome. But our community website is addicted to roi.com. And I have a lot of resources. I have like due diligence checklist. I've got a deal analysis calculator, my residential deal analysis calculator that I share there. We have a lot of fun. So we've got like, I don't know I think I've got like 15 investors was flying out this weekend. And we're gonna do a deep dive on basically like this recession, how to take advantage and basically how to thrive when everyone else is freaking out.
Billy 25:10
Good stuff, man. One last question for you and your husband. Yeah. How are you guys split up? Are you the visionary? Is he the visionary? You both visionaries like what does that look like?
Jennifer25:20
Yeah, so I'm visionary. I am the foot on the gas pedal every moment of every day. He's the one to like, pick up the mess behind me.
Billy 25:29
Yeah, he's the guy in the backend. Yep. Yeah, it works. You guys are crushing it. Really good to meet you. Man. This is a good interview is going on? Honestly, how did you? How did you get on the show? Do you remember? Was it a booking agency that you want?
Jennifer25:43
I don't remember. Yeah. I don't know if you guys reached out to me or maximum reach out to you.
Billy 25:50
The whole back end. So I have I have no idea. I'm just trying to figure it out. But this was great. I really enjoyed interviewing you. Good luck to you and your husband. And if people want to reach out and find you online, where do they go?
Jennifer25:59
Yeah. So if you're an agent, and you want to work with more investors, agents invest.com If you're an investor and you want to work on building your own portfolio so that you can also escape the rat race, addicted to roi.com. Beautiful,
Billy 26:11
Jen, really a pleasure interviewing you. Thank you so much. I'm gonna give you some plugs. My assistant is going to send you over the all of this at the end so you can put in your social media when I was really really cold meeting you and interviewing you today.
Jennifer26:23
Awesome. Thanks, Billy. You rock.
Billy 26:25
Yeah, you too. Jen. Take care. Awesome. Bye bye,